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1  Forums / Prayer Requests / Re: Prayer for the helpless on: January 30, 2015, 12:44:12 PM

"God grant us the serenity
to accept the things we cannot change,
the courage to change the things we can,
and the wisdom to know the difference."

A simple prayer that has had a lot of impact on my life, as i have seen Him answer it, repeatedly.

2  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Do you weep when you pray? on: January 30, 2015, 12:38:59 PM

Yes, sometimes He inspires us to rejoice in praise, sometimes in tears of gratitude -- even in prayer.

I notice Jesus wasn't described as crying at the tomb of Lazarus -- He was just confidant that His prayer would be answered, there and then.

John 11:40-44
Jesus said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the glory of God?”  Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead man was lying. 

And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.  And I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people who are standing by I said this, that they may believe that You sent Me.”

Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!”  And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with grave-clothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”

3  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 28, 2015, 11:42:19 AM

There are many varieties of the list of names Christ Jesus is called in each Book of the Bible.  Here is one of them:


In Genesis: Jesus is the Seed of the Woman, a descendant of Abraham, a King in the line of Judah, in the order of Melchizedek. The sacrified Son (as like Isaac, Gen 22) and a rejected Brother (as like Joseph, Gen 27).

in Exodus: Jesus is the Passover Lamb, the Leader and Deliverer out of slavery (as like Moses), the Manna from Heaven, the Rock that gave water, the Tabernacle in the camp and every item inside (Brazen Alter, Lampstand, Table of Showbread, Ark of the Covenant, etc.).

in Leviticus: Jesus is the High Priest, personified by the sacrifices and offering, the Jewish festivals (Passover, Atonement, Trumpets, etc.).

in Numbers: Jesus is the Cloud and the Fire, the Messiah that would be King. The Healer in the bronze serpent; the Water from the Rock.

in Deuteronomy: Jesus is the "Prophet like unto Moses", worshipped by angels. He is the City of refuge.

in Joshua: Jesus is the Captain of our Salvation, our Leader into the Promised-Land (as like Joshua), the Commander-in-Chief of the Army.

in Judges: Jesus is the Judge and Lawgiver, the true Judge for the living and the dead.

in Ruth: Jesus is the Kinsman-Redeemer, the descendent of Boaz and Ruth. Personified by Boaz.

in 1 & 2 Samuel: Jesus is the Prophet of The Lord, exalted by God with power. A descendent of David, personified by David – the exiled King. The faithful friend (Jonathan).

in 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Chronicles: Jesus is the reigning King, for the Millennial reign (as like Solomon). Multiplying bread and healing lepers (as like Elisha).

in Ezra: Jesus is the Faithful Scribe, the Builder of the Temple (Zerubbabel).

in Nehemiah: Jesus is the Rebuilder of the broken-down walls, the builder of the walls of Salvation (as like Nehemiah).

in Esther: Jesus is personified as Mordecai, the Guardian.

in Job: Jesus is the Dayspring from on High, with the sufferings and the subsequent blessings (as like Job).

in Psalms: Jesus is the Lord Who is our Shepherd, the resurrected Son of God, that was despised and crucified; hated without cause, rejected by the Israelites. But now seated on the right hand of God.

in Proverbs & Ecclesiastes: Jesus is Wisdom of God.

in the Song of Solomon: Jesus is the Lover and Bridegroom.

in Isaiah: Jesus is the Suffering Servant. Born of a virgin, the Immanuel “God with us”. Both God and Man, with a 7-fold spirit upon Him. He healed the blind, lame and deaf, was preceded by a forerunner. A Light to the Gentiles but despised by the Israelite nation. He was whipped and beaten; and finally died as a guilt offering for sin. But He rose from the grave and lives forever.

in Jeremiah & Lamentations: Jesus is the weeping Prophet, the righteous Branch, our Righteousness.

in Ezekiel: Jesus is the Son of Man, a descendent of David.

in Daniel: Jesus is the Son of Man coming in the clouds of Heaven, given an everlasting Kingdom. He came 483 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. Foretold He would be killed and revealed as the Stone that smashes the kingdoms of the world. The 4th Man in the fiery furnace.

in Hosea: Jesus is the Bridegroom married to the backslidden woman, the faithful One to His adulterous wife.

in Joel: Jesus is baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire, offers Salvation to all mankind and baptizes people with the Holy Spirit.

in Amos: Jesus is the Burden-Bearer, darkened the day during Messiah’s death.

in Obadiah: Jesus is the Mighty Savior.

in Jonah: Jesus is the forgiving God, being 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a fish/the earth.

in Micah: Jesus is the Messenger with beautiful Feet, born in Bethlehem and from everlasting.

in Nahum: Jesus is the Avenger of God’s Elect.

in Habakkuk: Jesus is the great Evangelist, crying For revival, the Messiah that would come from Teman at His return, full of glory, with intercession and prayer for His people (Habakkuk).

in Zephaniah: Jesus is the Restorer of God’s lost Heritage.

in Haggai: Jesus is the Cleansing-Fountain, Who visited the 2nd Temple.

in Zechariah: Jesus is the Son, a Priest and King Who rides into Jerusalem on a donkey, the Messiah Who would be God and be pierced.

in Malachi: Jesus is the Son of Righteousness, rising with healing in His wings, the Messiah Who would be God, Who would appear at the Temple and His forerunner came in the spirit of Elijah.

in Matthew: Jesus is the King of the Jews, the Son of David, the Son of God, and the Bridegroom.

in Mark: Jesus is the Wonder-Worker, the Holy One of God, the Servant, the King of Israel.

in Luke: Jesus is the Son of Man, the Horn of Salvation and the Consolation of Israel.

in John: Jesus is the Son of God, the uniquely-begotten Son, the Lamb of God, the Bread of Life, the Light of the world, the I AM, the Door of the sheep, the Good Shepherd, the Resurrection, the Way, the Truth and the Life. The True Vine.

in Acts: Jesus is the Ascended Lord, the Prince of Life, the Judge of the living and the dead, the Just One, and the Hope of Israel.

in Romans: Jesus is the Justifier, the Rock of Offense, the Deliverer, the Lord of the dead and the living. The Root of Jesse.

in 1 & 2 Corinthians: Jesus is the gifts of the Spirit, the First-Fruit and the Last-Adam.

in Galatians: Jesus is the One Who sets us free, the Lord Jesus Christ.

in Ephesians: Jesus is the Christ of riches, the Head of all things and the Cornerstone.

in Philippians: Jesus is the God Who meets our every need, the Name above all names.

in Colossians: Jesus is the Fullness of the Godhead, the Image of the Invisible God, the Head of the Body, the Beginning, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Hope of glory.

in 1 & 2 Thessalonians: Jesus is the soon-coming King, the Lord of peace.

in 1 & 2 Timothy: the Mediator between God and man, the King of Ages, the Mediator.

in Titus: Jesus is the faithful Pastor, the blessed Hope. The great God and Saviour.

in Philemon: Jesus is the Friend that sticks closer than a brother, the Lord Jesus Christ.

in Hebrews: Jesus is the Blood that washes away our sins, the Heir of all things, the faithful High Priest, the Author and Finisher of our faith.

in James: Jesus is the great Physician, the Lord of glory and the Judge at the door.

in 1 & 2 Peter: Jesus is the Chief-Shepherd, and the living Stone.

in 1 & 2 & 3 John: Jesus is everlasting Love, the eternal Life and the Righteous One.

in Jude: Jesus is the Lord Who came down with 10,000 Saints, the only wise God, our Savior.

in Revelation: Jesus is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. The Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Word of God, the Bright Morning Star.
4  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 28, 2015, 10:51:47 AM

There are many parallels between Israel in the Old Testament and Jesus Christ in the New.  In a sense, Christ's story repeats much of the history of ancient Israel, point by point — but He overcame where they had failed.  Notice the following parallels between the history of ancient Israel and Jesus Christ:

In the Old Testament, a man named Joseph has dreams and goes into egypt to preserve his family [Genesis 45:5]. In the New Testament, another Joseph likewise had dreams and goes into egypt to preserve his family [Matthew 2:13].

When the young nation of Israel comes out of egypt, God calls it “My son” [Exodus 4:22].  When Jesus comes out of egypt, God says “Out of egypt have I called My Son” [Matthew 2:15].

When Israel leaves egypt, the people go through the "red sea". The apostle Paul says they were “baptized unto Moses ... in the sea” [1 Corinthians 10:2].  Jesus is also baptized “to fulfill all righteousness,” and immediately afterward God proclaims Him, “My beloved Son” [Matthew 3:15-17].

After the red sea crossing, the Israelites spend 40 years in the wilderness — led by the pillar of Fire, God’s Spirit.  Immediately after baptism, Jesus is “led up of the Spirit into the wilderness” for 40 days [Matthew 4:1,2].

At the end of the 40 years in the desert, Moses writes Deuteronomy.  At the end of Jesus’ 40 days, He resists Satan’s temptations by quoting three Scriptures — all from Deuteronomy [Luke 4].

In Psalm 80:8, God calls Israel a “vine” that He brought “out of Egypt.”  Jesus later declares, “I am the true Vine” [John 15:1].

In the Old Testament, the name “Israel” first applied to one man: Jacob — representing his spiritual victory over sin.  Even so, in the New Testament, Jesus Christ is the Israel Who came “out of egypt.” He is the one victorious Man Who overcame all sin! 

The list of parallels between Jesus and Israel goes on, but consider just a few more points.

For example, after healing a group of people, Jesus modestly “charged them that they should not make Him known:  "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias [Greek for Isaiah] the prophet, saying, Behold My servant, Whom I have chosen; My Beloved, in Whom My Soul is well pleased: I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He shall show judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear His Voice in the streets” [Matthew 12:16-19].  Here the writer quotes Isaiah 42:1-3, a passage that originally applied to “Israel, ... My Servant” [Isaiah 41:8].  Yet Matthew tells us it is “fulfilled” in Jesus Christ.

The apostle Paul also follows the principle in his letters of applying statements originally made about the nation of Israel to Christ. God called Israel “My firstborn” in Exodus 4:22. Yet Paul said it was Jesus Christ Who is “the Firstborn of every creature” [Colossians 1:15].

The clearest example is when God calls Israel “the seed of Abraham” [Isaiah 41:8]. However, Paul later writes that Abraham’s seed does not refer to “many,” but to “One, ... which is Christ” [Galatians 3:16].  Thus we discover that repeatedly in the New Testament, statements that once applied to the nation of Israel are now applied to Jesus Christ.

The Messiah is now “the Seed.”  Therefore, Jesus is the very essence of Israel!  Yet there is more. Remember that the name “Israel” not only referred to Jacob, but also to his descendants — who became Israel.  The same principle is seen in the New Testament.

For example, the Lord told the ancient Israelites, “And you shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation” [Exodus 19:6].  In the New Testament, Peter applies these exact words to the Church: “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people” [1 Peter 2:9].

Likewise, immediately after Paul’s statement in Galatians 3 about Jesus being “the Seed,” he then tells his gentile converts, “And if you are Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the Promise” [Galatians 3:29].  Thus in the New Testament, the name Israel not only applies to Jesus Christ, but also to those who are born in Christ — His Church. In other words, all true Christians are now God’s spiritual Israel.

The Church is called the Body of Christ [1 Corinthians 12:27], which may be one reason why James, when writing to the Church, addresses it as the 12 tribes that are scattered abroad [James 1:1].  From the very beginning, the Church has understood Israel to mean a spiritual Body of Christ.

And, of course, God led Israel out of the slavery of egypt and into the Promised Land, even as Jesus leads His flock out of the slavery to sin and into the Promised Kingdom of His righteousness.  The children of Israel survived by eating "manna" from the sky,  while Jesus Christ is the Bread of Life Who came down from Heaven [John 6:51] that Believers all eat.  The Israelites drank water from the rock [Numbers 20:8-11], and Christ is the Rock, the Source of Living Water [John 7:38, 1 Corinthians 10:4].  Christ led the Israelites to freedom in the form of a cloud [Exodus 13:21], even as He will come again on clouds with power and great glory to raise His people up to eternal Life [Mark 13:26, Revelation 1:7].

Anyone have other favorite parallels?
5  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: God is love -- in both Testaments on: January 27, 2015, 11:21:31 AM

This question, of whether the picture of God in the Older Testament is far different from the Father that Jesus presents, seems to be a frequent focus, especially in "liberal-scholar" circles.  The Scriptures make it clear that God was/is/always will be the truest Love in essence and nature -- it is our unrighteousness which wants to see a satanic god in the Bible Jesus used.

See the first posts above for more Scriptural support.

This topic remains a challenge for many Believers, and of course, for non-believers.  Have you found a better explanation (than in the first post above), of the great love God has always shown us -- even B.C.?
6  Forums / Prayer Requests / Re: Prayer for the helpless on: January 24, 2015, 11:42:18 AM

It is likely that the person you describe needs to be awakened to their own powerlessness and need for God.  May they be drained of their own sense of power and be moved to turn to a new Source.  Real soon.
7  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 24, 2015, 11:35:58 AM

Messianic prophecy in Psalms (notice especially Psalm 22) with corresponding fulfillment in the Newer Testament.


The Messiah:

Would be rejected by Gentiles---Psalm 2:1...Acts 4:25-28
Political and religious leaders would conspire against Him--Psalm 2:2...Matthew 26:3-4
Would be a King---Psalm 2:6...John 12:12-13
Would be the Son of God---Psalm 2:7a...Luke 1:31-35
Would declare that He was the Son of God---Psalm 2:7b...John 9:35-37
Would be resurrected and crowned as King---Psalm 2:7c...Acts 13:30-33
Would ask God for His inheritance---Psalm 2:8a...John 17:4-24
Would receive authority over all---Psalm 2:8b...Matthew 28:18
Would be the Son of God---Psalm 2:12a...Matthew 17:5
Would reject those who did not believe in Him---Psalm 2:12b...John 3:36
Infants would give Him praise---Psalm 8:2...Matthew 21:15-16
Would be given authority over all things---Psalm 8:6...Matthew 28:18
Would be resurrected---Psalm 16:8-10a...Matthew 28:6
His body would not be subject to decay---Psalm 16:8-10b...Acts 13:35-37
Would be exalted to the presence of God---Psalm 16:11...Acts 2:25-33
Would come for all people---Psalm 18:49...Ephesians 3:4-6

Would cry out to God---Psalm 22:1a...Matthew 27:46
Would be foresaken by God---Psalm 22:1b...Mark 15:34
Anguished, would pray without ceasing---Psalm 22:2...Matthew 26:38-39
Would be despised---Psalm 22:6...Luke 23:21-23
Would be mocked by people shaking their heads---Psalm 22:7...Matthew 27:39
Mockers would say of Him, "He trusted God, let Him deliver Him"---Psalm 22:8...Matthew 27:41-43
Would be aware of His Father from His youth---Psalm 22:9...Luke 2:40
Would be called to God's service from the womb---Psalm 22:10...Luke 1:30-33
Would be abandoned by the disciples---Psalm 22:11...Mark 14:50
Would be surrounded by evil spirits---Psalm 22:12-13...Colossians 2:15
His heart would burst, flowing with blood & water---Psalm 22:14a...John 19:34
Would be crucified---Psalm 22:14b...Matthew 27:35
Would thirst---Psalm 22:15a...John 19:28
Would thirst shortly before His death---Psalm 22:15b...John 19:30
Would be surrounded by Gentiles at His crucifixion---Psalm 22:16a...Luke 23:36
Would be surrounded by Jews at His crucifixion---Psalm 22:16b...Matthew 27:41-43
His hands and feet would be pierced---Psalm 22:16c...Matthew 27:38
None of His bones would be broken---Psalm 22:17a...John 19:32-33
People would stare at Him during His crucifixion---Psalm 22:17b...Luke 23:35
His garments would be divided---Psalm 22:18a...John 19:23-24
Lots would be cast for His clothes---Psalm 22:18b...John 19:23-24
His atonement would enable believers to be His brethren---Psalm 22:22...Hebrews 2:10-12

None of the Messiah's bones would be broken---Psalm 34:20...John 19:32-33
His offering of himself would replace all sacrifices---Psalm 40:6-8a...Hebrews 10:10-13
Would say the Scriptures were written of Him---Psalm 40:6-8b...Luke 24:44
Would come to do God's will---Psalm 40:7-8...John 5:30
Would not conceal His mission from the congregation---Psalm 40:9-10...Luke 4:16-21
His betrayer would be a friend whom He broke bread with---Psalm 41:9...Mark 14:17-18
Would speak with a message of grace---Psalm 45:2...Luke 4:22
His throne would be everlasting---Psalm 45:6-7a...Luke 1:31-33
Would be God---Psalm 45:6-7b...Hebrews 1:8-9
Would act with righteousness---Psalm 45:6-7c...John 5:30
Would ascend into Heaven---Psalm 68:18a...Luke 24:51
Would give gifts to men---Psalm 68:18b...Matthew 10:1
Would be hated by many without cause---Psalm 69:4...Luke 23:13-22
Would bear reproach, for God's sake---Psalm 69:7...Matthew 26:65-67
Would be rejected by the Jews---Psalm 69:8a...John 1:11
His brothers would disbelieve Him---Psalm 69:8b...John 7:3-5
Would be angered by disrespect toward the Temple---Psalm 69:9a...John 2:13-17
Would bear reproach, for God's sake---Psalm 69:9b...Romans 15:3
His disciples would fail Him in His time of need---Psalm 69:20...Mark 14:33-41
Would be offered gall and vinegar---Psalm 69:21a...Matthew 27:34
Would thirst---Psalm 69:21b...John 19:28
Potter's field would be uninhabited---Psalm 69:25...Acts 1:16-20
Would speak in parables---Psalm 78:2...Matthew 13:34-35
Would be at the right hand of God---Psalm 80:17...Acts 5:31
Would be a descendant of David---Psalm 89:3-4...Matthew 1:1
Would call God His Father---Psalm 89:26...Matthew 11:27
Would be God's "firstborn"---Psalm 89:27...Mark 16:6
Would be a descendant of David---Psalm 89:29...Matthew 1:1
Would be a descendant of David---Psalm 89:35-36...Matthew 1:1
Would be eternal---Psalm 102:25-27a...Colossians 1:17
Would be the Creator of all---Psalm 102:25-27b...John 1:3
Would be accused by false witnesses---Psalm 109:2...John 18:29-30
Would pray for His enemies---Psalm 109:4...Luke 23:34
His betrayer would have a short life---Psalm 109:8a...Acts 1:16-18
His betrayer would be replaced---Psalm 109:8b...Acts 1:20-26
Would be mocked by people shaking their heads---Psalm 109:25...Mark 15:29-30
Would be Lord---Psalm 110:1a...Matthew 22:41-45
Would be at the right hand of God---Psalm 110:1b...Mark 16:19
Would be a Priest in the order of Melchizedec---Psalm 110:4...Hebrews 6:17-20
Would be at the right hand of God---Psalm 110:5...1 Peter 3:21-22
Would be the "Stone" rejected by the Jews---Psalm 118:22...Matthew 21:42-43
Would come in the name of the Lord---Psalm 118:26...Matthew 21:9
Would be a descendant of David---Psalm 132:11...Matthew 1:1
Would be a descendant of David---Psalm 132:17...Matthew 1:1


[[ I invite you to verify these in Scripture, as i will be.  Thanks. ]]
8  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Eternal torture appears dead at last on: January 23, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
A friend passed along this web reference to this topic, which i am looking at:

http://truthfromgod.com/studies/hell.html


For another good reference, try this:

http://www.hellhadesafterlife.com/hell


I can't actually recommend the first reference here, although it has some good information.  There are some other ideas in the website which i have a problem with.

The second reference here remains sound, at least as i have studied it so far.  It includes another good article:

http://www.hellhadesafterlife.com/conditional-immortality



The other excellent reference on this topic is still having some server problems, but is sometimes available:

http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/e_teachings/the-hell-debate-annihilationism
http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/e_teachings/the-hell-debate-annihilationism-part-2
http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/e_teachings/the-hell-debate-annihilationism-part-3

[By the way, you may have to clean out cookies for "heavensfamily", apparently they are what causes the problems viewing on that server".]
9  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Do you weep when you pray? on: January 23, 2015, 05:29:41 PM

I wish i could say i weep more in prayer -- only occasionally.  My "tears of gratitude" relate more to my relating with people struggling with addictions, especially in "meetings".  Come to think of it, good Christian music, and great spirit-stories can have that effect also.



10  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 19, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
Many of the Biblical prophecies regarding the Messiah are found especially in the Books of Isaiah (written over 700 years before Jesus) and the Psalms (written even earlier).  Here is a more in-depth look at those prophecies in the Book of Isaiah followed by their fulfillment in Jesus Christ.  (The Book of Psalms' prophecies will be added later.) 

[[Any help in "proof-reading" and verse verification will be appreciated.]]

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People will hear not, and see not, Messiah (Isaiah 6:9-10)---Fulfilled in Matthew 13:14-15

Will be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14)---Was born of a virgin named Mary (Luke 1:26-31)

Will be called Immanuel, "God with us" (Isaiah 7:14)---Fulfilled in Matthew 1:23

Will be a Stone of stumbling to Israel (Isaiah 8:14-15)---Fulfilled in I Peter 2:8

Will have a Galilean ministry, bringing Light to the gentiles  (Isaiah 9:1,2)---Ministry began in Galilee of the gentiles (Matthew 4:13-16)

Will be called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" (Isaiah 9:6)---Fulfilled in Matthew 1:23

Will be an heir to the throne of David (Isaiah 9:7; 11:1, 10)---Was given the throne of His father David (Luke 1:32, 33)

Gentiles will seek Him (Isaiah 11:10)---Gentiles came to speak to Jesus (John 12:20,21)

God's Spirit will rest on Him (Isaiah 11:2)---The Spirit of God descended on Jesus (Matthew 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; 4:1)

People will trust in traditions of men instead of Messiah (Isaiah 29:13)---Fulfilled in Matthew 15:9

People will give God lip service only, not accept Him (Isaiah 29:13)---Fulfilled in Matthew 15:8

Will heal blind/deaf/lame/dumb...(Isaiah 35:5-6)---Fulfilled in Matthew 11:5

Will have His way prepared by a special messenger (Isaiah 40:3-5)---Was announced by John the Baptist (John 1:19-28)

God the Father will delight in Him (Isaiah 42:1)---Fulfilled in Matthew 3:17, 17:5

Will not strive or cry out (Isaiah 42:2-3)---Fulfilled in Mark 7:36

Will be given for a Covenant (Isaiah 42:6)---Fulfilled in Romans 11:27

Will be spat on and struck (Isaiah 50:6)---Was spat on and beaten (Matthew 26:67)

Will be exalted (Isaiah 52:13)---Was highly exalted by God and the People (Philippians 2:9, 10)

Will be disfigured by suffering (Isaiah 52:14; 53:2)---Was scourged by Roman soldiers who gave Him a crown of thorns (Mark 15:15-19)

Will be widely rejected (Isaiah 53:1,3)---Was not accepted by many (John 12:37, 38)

Will be the sacrificial Lamb (Isaiah 53:5)---Fulfilled in John 1:29

Will make a blood atonement (Isaiah 53:5)---Shed His blood to atone for our sins (1Peter 1:2)

Will bear our sins and sorrows (Isaiah 53:4, 5)---Died because of our sins (Romans 4L25; 1Peter 2:24, 25)

Will bear our sickness (Isaiah 53:4)---Fulfilled in Matthew 8:16-17

Will be our substitute (Isaiah 53:6,8)---Died in our place (Romans 5:6, 8; 2 Corinthians 5:21)

Will voluntarily accept our guilt and punishment for sin (Isaiah 53:7,8)---Jesus took on our sins (John 1:29; Romans 6:10; 2 Corinthians 5:21)

Will be silent before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7)---Was silent before Herod and his court (Luke 23:9)

Will be buried in a rich man's tomb (Isaiah 53:9)---Was buried in the tomb of Joseph, a rich man from Arimathea (Matthew 27:57-60; John 19:38-42)

Will save us who believe in Him (Isaiah 53:12)---Provided salvation for all who believe (John 3:16; Acts 16:31)

Will die with transgressors (Isaiah 53:12)---Was numbered with the transgressors (Mark 15:27, 28; Luke 22:37)

Will heal the brokenhearted (Isaiah 61:1,2)---Healed the brokenhearted (Luke 4:18, 19)

Will preach to the poor/brokenhearted/captives (Isaiah 61:1)---Fulfilled in Matthew 11:5

Will judge the earth with righteousness (Isaiah 11:4,5)---Jesus was given all authority to judge (John 5:27; Luke 19:22; 2 Timothy 4:1,8)

11  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Christ in us Scriptures on: January 18, 2015, 11:08:48 AM

I got inspired to notice that the word "examine" is used many times in the OT, in the Book of Leviticus, referring to the priest/High priest investigating sacrificial animals for blemishes and people with sores / plagues / leprosy, (or healed from them) etc.

But in the Newer Testament, it appears (in the NKJV at least) in only one place:

In 2nd Corinthians Chapter 13, we are instructed to examine ourselves, to test ourselves, to see if Christ is alive and dwelling in us.  Check it out -- see if that isn't true...


(Of course, if you're not sure about it, you can always ask Him, right now, to come into you to take over your life/will -- to move you into greater conformity with His Will -- and to give you certainty that He has done exactly that.  He rejoices to give us His very best, which is Himself.....if you didn't know that already.    Grin )
12  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Why are these forums so difficult to find now? on: January 18, 2015, 10:55:47 AM
Im not upset with anyone and I encourage everyone to write what they believe and even if it becomes heated ...at the end of the day we can put our feelings aside and respect each other as individuals. There are a lot of really smart people on here ..so dont shy away from using your gifts.

That's truly a "quotable quote", mbG.

And beacon2, it seems to me that you have "challenged" me several times in the past, and i appreciate it.  Give it another shot -- but hurry, before the "stampede of posters" starts up again -- OK?   rolleyes
13  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 16, 2015, 10:53:29 AM

Dead Sea Scrolls Fragment 4Q521 from Cave 4

"The heavens and earth will obey His Messiah, the sea and all that is in them. He will not turn aside from the Commandment of the Holy Ones.  Take strength in His mighty work all ye who seek the Lord.  Will ye not find the Lord in this, all ye who wait for Him with hope in your hearts?  Surely the Lord will seek out the pious, and will call the righteous by name.  His Spirit will hover over the poor; by His might will He restore the faithful.

He will glorify the pious on the throne of the eternal Kingdom.  He will release the captives, make the blind see, raise up the down-trodden.  Forever I will cleave to Him against the powerful and I will trust in His loving kindness and in His goodness forever.

His holy Messiah will not be slow in coming.  And as for the wonders that are not the work of the Lord, when He, that is the Messiah, comes then He will heal the sick, resurrect the dead, and to the poor announce glad tidings.  He will lead the holy ones, He will shepherd them.  He will do all of it."
14  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 16, 2015, 10:47:54 AM

Fulfilled Messianic Prophecy...OT Reference...NT fulfillment

Born in Bethlehem...Micah 5:2...Matthew 2:5-6
His pre-existence...Micah 5:2...John 1:1, 14
Born of the seed of a woman...Genesis 3:15...Matthew 1:18
Of the seed of Abraham...Genesis 12:3...Matthew 1:1-16
All nations blessed by Abraham's seed...Genesis 12:3...Matthew 8:5, 10
God would provide Himself a Lamb as an offering...Genesis 22:8...John 1:29
From the tribe of Judah...Genesis 49:10...Matthew 1:1-3
Heir to the throne of David...Isaiah 9:6-7...Matthew 1:1
Called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father"...Isaiah 9:6...Matthew 1:23
Born in Bethlehem...Micah 5:2...Matthew 2:1
Born of a virgin...Isaiah 7:14...Matthew 1:18
His name called Immanuel, "God with us"...Isaiah 7:14...Matthew 1:23
Declared to be the Son of God...Psalm 2:7...Matthew 3:17
His messenger before Him in spirit of Elijah...Malachi 4:5-6...Luke 1:17
Preceded by a messenger to prepare His way...Malachi 3:1...Matthew 11:7-11
Messenger crying "Prepare ye the way of the Lord"...Isaiah 40:3...Matthew 3:3
Would be a Prophet of the children of Israel...Deuteronomy 18:15...Matthew 2:15
Called out of Egypt...Hosea 11:1...Matthew 2:15
Slaughter of the children...Jeremiah 31:15...Matthew2:18
Brought light to Zabulon & Nephthalm; the Gentiles...Isaiah 9:1-2...Matthew 4:15
Presented with gifts...Psalm 72:10...Matthew 2:1, 11
Rejected by His own...Isaiah 53:3...Matthew 21:42
The stone the builders rejected which became the headstone...Psalm 118:22-23...Matthew 21:42
A stone of stumbling to Israel...Isaiah 8:14-15...I Peter 2:8
Entered Jerusalem as a King riding on an ass...Zechariah 9:9...Matthew 21:5
Betrayed by a friend...Psalms 41:9...John 13:21
Sold for 30 pieces of silver...Zechariah 11:12...Matthew 26:15
30 pieces of silver given for the potter's field...Zechariah 11:12   ...Matthew 27:9-10
30 pieces of silver thrown in the temple...Zechariah 11:13...Matthew 27:5
Forsaken by His disciples...Zechariah 13:7...Matthew 26:56
Accused by false witnesses...Psalm 35:11...Matthew 26:60
Silent to accusations...Isaiah 53:7...Matthew 27:14
Heal blind/deaf/lame/dumb...Isaiah 35:5-6...Matthew 11:5
Preached to the poor/brokenhearted/captives...Isaiah 61:1...Matthew 11:5
Came to bring a sword, not peace...Micah 7:6...Matthew 10:34-35
He bore our sickness...Isaiah 53:4...Matthew 8:16-17
Spat upon, smitten and scourged...Isaiah 50:6...Matthew 27:26, 30
Smitten on the cheek...Micah 5:1...Matthew 27:30
Hated without a cause...Psalm 35:19...Matthew 27:23
The sacrificial Lamb...Isaiah 53:5...John 1:29
Given for a Covenant...Isaiah 42:6...Romans 11:27
Would not strive or cry...Isaiah 42:2-3...Mark 7:36
People would hear not and see not...Isaiah 6:9-10...Matthew 13:14-15
People trust in traditions of men...Isaiah 29:13...Matthew 15:9
People give God lip service...Isaiah 29:13...Matthew 15:8
God delights in Him...Isaiah 42:1...Matthew 3:17, 17:5
Wounded for our sins...Isaiah 53:5...John 6:51
He bore the sins of many...Isaiah 53:10-12...Mark 10:45
Messiah not killed for Himself...Daniel 9:26...Matthew 20:28
Gentiles flock to Him...Isaiah 55:5...Matthew 8:10
Crucified with criminals...Isaiah 53:12...Matthew 27:35
His body was pierced...Zechariah 12:10...John 20:25, 27
Thirsty during execution...Psalm 22:16...John 19:28
Given vinegar and gall for thirst...Psalm 69:21...Matthew 27:34
Soldiers gambled for his garment...Psalm 22:18...Matthew 27:35
People mocked, "He trusted in God, let Him deliver him!"...Psalm 22:7-8...Matthew 27:43
People sat there looking at Him...Psalm 22:17...Matthew 27:36
Cried, "My God, My God why have You forsaken Me?"...Psalm 22:1...Matthew 27:46
Darkness over the land...Amos 8:9...Matthew 27:45
No bones broken...Psalm 34:20...John 19:33-36
Side pierced...Zechariah 12:10...John 19:34
Buried with the rich...Isaiah 53:9...Matthew 27:57, 60
Resurrected from the dead...Psalm 16:10-11...Mark 16:6
Priest after the order of Melchizedek...Psalm 110:4...Hebrews 5:5-6
Ascended to right hand of God...Psalm 68:18...Luke 24:51
God said to Him, "Sit at My right hand, ...enemies Your footstool...Psalm 110:1...Matt 22:44
His coming glory...Malachi 3:2-3...Luke 3:17
15  Forums / Main Forum / Index: Scripture-supporting evidences on: January 16, 2015, 10:45:55 AM
Updated 1/28/15

The intention of this topic is to review and index some of the evidences given in past topics at F&G that the Bible is the actual and reliable Word of God.  I plan (if i am allowed from Above) to keep a list of the key posts related to such topics, and make the key points easier to access.

I will update this first post with each new entry.  (Feel free to make suggestions for other inclusions...)  Let's start the "evidence index" with an obvious choice:  prophecies.

A.  Prophecy.

   1.  Older Testament prophecies about Jesus.

      a.  Fulfilled prophecies about Christ -- see reply #1 below.

      b.  Special case: Isaiah -- see reply #3 below.

      c.  Special case: Psalms -- see reply #4 below, note especially Psalm 22.

  
   2.  Dead Sea Scrolls.

      a.  Fulfilled prophecies about the Messiah -- see reply #2 below.

   3.  Non-Messianic prophecies and their fulfillments  (to be developed)


B.  Unified theme and internal interconnections.

   1.  Christ / our Savior in each Book of the Bible  -- see reply #6 below.

   2.  Foreshadowing: parallels between Biblical persons' lives and work  (to be developed)

      a.  Comparisons between Jesus Christ and Israel -- see reply #5 below.

      b.  Comparisons between Jesus and Moses.

      c.  Comparisons between Jesus and Joseph.

      d.  Comparisons between Christ and the sacrificial system.

      e.  Comparisons between Christ and the feasts of Israel.

   3.  Support from archaeological findings  (to be developed)

   4.  Numerical consistency throughout the Word  (to be developed)
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